Showing posts with label escape. Show all posts
Showing posts with label escape. Show all posts
Mar 8, 2014
Mar 1, 2014
Kip McKean's $650,000 Condo
(Cussing warning - but it's a quote, and in context. And you'll NEVER guess who it was.)
I was recently reminded of the following:
Kip McKean lives in a $650,000 luxury condo that he purchased in 2010. (For the record, as seen in the link, Kip's legal name is "Thomas Wayne", not "Kip".)
This condo has a special significance to me. This is where I visited Kip in 2011 to talk about lying, theft, abuse and threats by one of his top leaders. And was completely shot down.
If I were better informed about Kip's history, I would have known in advance how the meeting would turn out. Kip would categorically defend the higher leader (Victor), and systematically attack the lower leader (me). Because leadership is from God and leaders are always right. And the most important thing is to maintain order. Leaders on top, and Kip on top of the leaders.
So, my Kip McKean luxury condo meeting was short and ended abruptly. I started talking, and for several seconds started to tell Kip how Victor had lied to me and abused his position in the church to steal from me.
Kip then interrupted me to insist that nothing of the sort had happened. Victor was innocent of all charges (except of possibly being "insensitive"), and that everything was certainly just a "misunderstanding."
Never mind that Victor had already confessed to everything in front of a witness.
I was recently reminded of the following:
Kip McKean lives in a $650,000 luxury condo that he purchased in 2010. (For the record, as seen in the link, Kip's legal name is "Thomas Wayne", not "Kip".)
This condo has a special significance to me. This is where I visited Kip in 2011 to talk about lying, theft, abuse and threats by one of his top leaders. And was completely shot down.
If I were better informed about Kip's history, I would have known in advance how the meeting would turn out. Kip would categorically defend the higher leader (Victor), and systematically attack the lower leader (me). Because leadership is from God and leaders are always right. And the most important thing is to maintain order. Leaders on top, and Kip on top of the leaders.
So, my Kip McKean luxury condo meeting was short and ended abruptly. I started talking, and for several seconds started to tell Kip how Victor had lied to me and abused his position in the church to steal from me.
Kip then interrupted me to insist that nothing of the sort had happened. Victor was innocent of all charges (except of possibly being "insensitive"), and that everything was certainly just a "misunderstanding."
Never mind that Victor had already confessed to everything in front of a witness.
Feb 26, 2014
The Traumas of a "Kingdom Kid"
If you are looking for a great read, and hear the perspective of a Kingdom Kid, (a child who grew up in the church), here is a great place to poke around:
Recovering from Cult Life in the ICOC (Healthy Mama)
The author grew up in Kip's "old" church, the ICOC. She was very traumatized.
One part that jumped out to me is where someone describes getting hit on and hooking up with her former ICOC teen leader, only to later find out that he was a fully "restored" member and leader in Kip's new City of Angels ICC. Yes, he was leading in the CAICC at the same time that he was tapping her @$$ and asking her for boob pics.
No, nothing wrong with that picture, do you think?
On a personal note, one of the motivating factors in me leaving the church was so that my kids would never have to be "kingdom kids" and suffer through church life like this girl did (and like I had) for so long.
As I held my newborn baby daughter in my arms I thought, "There is NO WAY that I am going to allow any of THAT to be inflicted on this precious and innocent little baby!" Thank God.
Recovering from Cult Life in the ICOC (Healthy Mama)
The author grew up in Kip's "old" church, the ICOC. She was very traumatized.
One part that jumped out to me is where someone describes getting hit on and hooking up with her former ICOC teen leader, only to later find out that he was a fully "restored" member and leader in Kip's new City of Angels ICC. Yes, he was leading in the CAICC at the same time that he was tapping her @$$ and asking her for boob pics.
No, nothing wrong with that picture, do you think?
On a personal note, one of the motivating factors in me leaving the church was so that my kids would never have to be "kingdom kids" and suffer through church life like this girl did (and like I had) for so long.
As I held my newborn baby daughter in my arms I thought, "There is NO WAY that I am going to allow any of THAT to be inflicted on this precious and innocent little baby!" Thank God.
Dec 10, 2012
My Life After Leaving Kip McKean's Movement of Churches
The Good
After leaving the church, I felt several things. I felt free. I felt suddenly flush with cash. I suddenly had lots of free time, time to actually see my kids. I felt more in line with my true self and my deepest beliefs. And I felt very surprised to find myself somewhere that I never, ever planned or expected.
After leaving the church, I felt several things. I felt free. I felt suddenly flush with cash. I suddenly had lots of free time, time to actually see my kids. I felt more in line with my true self and my deepest beliefs. And I felt very surprised to find myself somewhere that I never, ever planned or expected.
Why I Left the City Of Angels International Christian Church
(En español)
The description of my experiences has been divided into three main parts:
Part One, where one of the main leaders in the church bilks me out of thousands of dollars with lies and tricks and then threatens me (temporarily) into silence;
Part Two, where it it revealed that the lies go much farther than had at first been evident; and that going to top leadership (aka, Kip McKean) is useless,
Part Three, where Kip McKean and other leaders in the church threaten to try to destroy my family.
And finally, conclusions that can be drawn from all of this.
Please note that I have since left the City of Angels International Christian Church and its respective "Sold-Out Discipling Movement" and moved far away in an attempt to protect my family and our respective mental, social, spiritual, and physical health.
These things are far from pleasant for me to talk or write about. However I am sharing my story here publicly so that others can be made aware and in the hope that I can prevent at least someone from having to go through similar trauma or abuse.
Thank you for reading and for sharing these posts with others.
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The description of my experiences has been divided into three main parts:
Part One, where one of the main leaders in the church bilks me out of thousands of dollars with lies and tricks and then threatens me (temporarily) into silence;
Part Two, where it it revealed that the lies go much farther than had at first been evident; and that going to top leadership (aka, Kip McKean) is useless,
Part Three, where Kip McKean and other leaders in the church threaten to try to destroy my family.
And finally, conclusions that can be drawn from all of this.
These things are far from pleasant for me to talk or write about. However I am sharing my story here publicly so that others can be made aware and in the hope that I can prevent at least someone from having to go through similar trauma or abuse.
Thank you for reading and for sharing these posts with others.
Want to receive new posts by email as soon as they go live? Sign up with the gadget located in the right column >>
Sep 20, 2011
El Porque Ya No Soy Parte de la Iglesia
Les debo una actualización: Ya dejé de ser parte de la iglesia y del "movimiento" de Kip McKean y los "discípulos", y nunca volveré a tomar parte en nada de eso. ¿Por qué? Voy a poner los detalles poco a poco en los días que vienen, aunque incomode a algunos de mis amigos de mucho tiempo. Pero en breve, mi opinión de todo el trabajo que estábamos haciendo ha cambiado por completo, igual como mi opinion de los líderes de la iglesia City of Angels.
ENGLISH TRANSLATION:
I owe you an update: I am no longer part of the church or the "movement" of Kip McKean and the "disciples," and I will never be part of any of it again. Why? I'll be posting the details bit by bit in coming days, although it will make some long-standing friends pretty uncomfortable. But in brief, my opinion about all of the work that we were doing has completely changed, as has my opinion of the leaders of the City of Angels church.
ENGLISH TRANSLATION:
I owe you an update: I am no longer part of the church or the "movement" of Kip McKean and the "disciples," and I will never be part of any of it again. Why? I'll be posting the details bit by bit in coming days, although it will make some long-standing friends pretty uncomfortable. But in brief, my opinion about all of the work that we were doing has completely changed, as has my opinion of the leaders of the City of Angels church.
Sep 17, 2007
Los Pescadores - Una Parabola para los Tiempos Modernos
Actualización: En tiempos atrás, yo fui miembro, fanático, y líder de la secta de Kip McKean, la Iglesia Cristiana Internacional "City of Angels" en Los Angeles. Pero después de ver la gran hipocresía y abuso de parte de los líderes, me tuve que ir, y ahora mi pequeño blog se dedica a advertir a los inocentes a tener mucho cuidado al no ser abusados también por los mismos tipos corruptos y malintencionados que ya han usado y lastimado a tanta gente.
Por favor lea ese artículo que describe exactamente que es lo que paso conmigo bajo el liderazgo abusivo de Kip McKean y de Víctor Gonzalez Sr.
Abajo, el texto original de esa pagina, escrito cuando yo estaba bajo el abuso y control de los tipos mencionados arriba:
Su servidor, ahora el traductor de los artículos de Kip McKean al espanol:
Los Pescadores - Una Parabola para los Tiempos Modernos
(Confieso, me lo tuvieron que corregir para que quedara bien!)
Por favor lea ese artículo que describe exactamente que es lo que paso conmigo bajo el liderazgo abusivo de Kip McKean y de Víctor Gonzalez Sr.
Abajo, el texto original de esa pagina, escrito cuando yo estaba bajo el abuso y control de los tipos mencionados arriba:
Su servidor, ahora el traductor de los artículos de Kip McKean al espanol:
Los Pescadores - Una Parabola para los Tiempos Modernos
(Confieso, me lo tuvieron que corregir para que quedara bien!)
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