Apr 16, 2014

Anti-ICC YouTube Channel

There have been some new YouTube videos popping up which target the International Christian Church.

One channel, called ICC Cult Information, features short anti-cult messages about the church. Here is a one-minute video from there:

As time goes on, there will be more and more stories by former members describing abuse and wrongdoing by Kip's leaders, just like it was with Kip's last church, the ICOC. You have heard it before, and will hear it again: nothing has changed about Kip or his ministries. (At the least, nothing has changed for the better - it was only recently that Kip set up a sham religious school and awarded himself a fake doctorate.)

Update: Here is another anti-ICC YouTube channel with a bunch of videos by a former member of the London International Christian Church talking about his experiences.

A quote from a video there: "You know it's kind of embarrassing, I mean, that's why most people don't say anything, because you sort of think, that was a bit of stupid thing to do, wasn't it, get involved in a cult."

Yet, those who operate these groups are professionals at convincing people, the good-hearted people who want to do what is right - that is how they got me. They used expert emotional manipulation that I had never before encountered and was not in a position to recognize.

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  1. Any of the ICoC and ICC Churches are cults. They believe that baptism, rather than the Blood of Jesus and the imputed righteousness He bestows upon the believer, saves you. Pure heretical teaching. Also they use a corrupted version of the Bible, and not the Authorized (King James) Version 1611 Bible. Those corrupted texts give a distorted works based teaching that is contrary to the teachings of Jesus. Enough said.

    1. Whether their doctrine is right or not, I personally care more about the lives they are damaging, money they are extorting, and lies they are telling to control people.

  2. who exactly "authorized" the King James of 1611? God???

    1. Welcome, current ICC member!

    2. Thank you......I am reading with much anticipation for something new. Unfortunately, all you can do is continue to regurgitate the same story over and over and over again. (its a cult, the finances, lies...or my favorite...it's MIND control!) At what point do you just stop and go live your life? It's OBVIOUS you don't like the guy! Go my child, be free........i give you permission!!!........ but, until that happens, i will continue to be amused.

    3. You spending time reading here suggests that you have some doubts and are looking for some answers. I'm sure you can understand the hypocrisy involved when Kip and the ICC leadership leans so heavily on every member to give every last little bit possible, only to turn around and spend it on luxury lifestyle expenses for themselves. And you don't care about lies? I encourage you to research a bit about mind control and then tell me what you found out. Remember that those who are under it's control are unable to perceive it. All you feel is guilt or fear if you don't do what they expect of you.

    4. I guess i don't see it the way you do. Im in leadership with ICC.....ive been a disciple for 24 years now, and have led in 5 different churches. Please help me to see the "luxury lifestyle" I'm missing. Things here in LA are a little more expensive than in other cities...$650,000 for Kips place is not that much money! Please......I rent a house that would sell for double that, and its not that nice of a place! ITS JUST CALIFORNIA....oh, btw, Kip bought his place as a foreclosure. A piece of information that never seems to make its way out. So, as you can tell.....he wasn't looking to "stick" it to anybody. its by no means a lavish lifestyle. I have certainly made a lot more in past years with my own business. Trust me, I have no doubts about what we are doing.....I just feel sorry for all of you because you can't move on....

    5. So tell me, current ICC leader, Kip recently said that the ICC offers the world it's "only hope." That begs the question, how many people on this planet do you believe are currently hell-bound? I know when I was a member there in LA with you we believed that 99.99999% of the world was "lost" and headed to hell if we did not save them by adding them to Kip's group.

  3. These videos are funny.......Stupid actually.

    1. Welcome again, current ICC member!

  4. Yes those youtube channels are everywhere ;-) as an exmember of the London ICC I did one myself to tell my side of the story


    Faith only advocates are very inconsistent when is comes to explaining the meaning of for the remission of sins that is found in the Scriptures.

    Acts 2:38 The Peter said to them, "Repent, and let every one of you be baptized in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins; and you shall receive the gift of the Holy Spirit. (NKJV)

    Mark 1:4 John came baptizing in the wilderness and preaching a baptism of repentance for the remission of sins. (NKJV)

    Matthew 26:28 "For this is My blood of the new covenant, which shed for many for the remission of sins. (NKJV)

    Faith only advocates proclaim that for in Acts 2:38 actually means because of. In other words the 3000 on the Day of Pentecost repented and were baptized in water because their sin had already been forgiven. Were they save by "faith only?"

    Did John the Baptist baptized because those he baptized had already been forgiven? Did for mean because of? Were they saved the very minute they repented. Were they saved by "repentance only?"

    Did Jesus shed His blood because the sins of men had already been forgiven? Did for mean because of? Are all men saved by the "the crucifixion of Jesus only?"

    The same word, for, was used in Acts 2:38, Mark 1:4, and Matthew 26:28. The Greek word eis has not been translated as because of in Acts 2:38, Mark 1:4, or Matthew 26:28. There is not one single translation that translates eis as because of. Are all translations in error? Is God not powerful enough to have His word translated correctly?

    Forgiveness of sins followed the shed blood of Jesus Christ.

    Forgiveness of sins followed those who were baptized by John the Baptist.

    Forgiveness of sins, under the New Covenant, follows being baptized in water.


    Men are saved because of God's grace. Ephesians 2:8.
    Men are saved because of the shed blood of Jesus. Matt. 26:28.
    Men are saved because of faith. John 3:16.
    Men are saved because of their repentance. Acts 3:19.
    Men are saved because of their confession. Romans 10:9.
    Men are saved because of their immersion in water. Acts 2:38.


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