tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4825487692627607933.post8381123641918175260..comments2024-03-28T00:40:09.996-07:00Comments on <center>City Of Angels International Christian Church (ICC) Blog</center>: My Life After Leaving Kip McKean's Movement of ChurchesUnknownnoreply@blogger.comBlogger35125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4825487692627607933.post-11789332098317276162023-03-23T07:41:31.444-07:002023-03-23T07:41:31.444-07:00I've led an interesting life...
I grew up Mor...I've led an interesting life...<br /><br />I grew up Mormon, left that - spent time in the world, and then was thinking about becoming an orthodox Jew as my family lineage led me to that. <br /><br />Then while reading the first five books of the "Bible" I felt strongly convicted by the Spirit of YHWH to repent, but because of the lies I inherited from my parents (Jer 16:16-20) I believed the only answer was the human sacrifice of Jesus.<br /><br />So for a few years, I followed Protestant Christianity, and started reading the NT. What I found is that the NT by and large doesn't agree with the Torah and the Prophets. <br /><br />Jesus is the bronze serpent, that leads men astray. Paul is a false prophet.<br /><br />YHWH alone is God and Savior, and I don't want followers - I don't want a religion.<br /><br />I want people to find the one true God and have relationship with him, turn from their sin.Elwood Buelhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04439171142793810982noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4825487692627607933.post-25102734888209070712021-09-09T15:26:54.837-07:002021-09-09T15:26:54.837-07:00You are wrong. I know Jesus and I know the Bible. ...You are wrong. I know Jesus and I know the Bible. Stop preaching falsely. You will burn in hell for being a false phrophet. Says so in the Bible. The Bible also says no one can separate a person from Jesus when they have truly asked Him to come into their life. Shaylahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05143544325536802340noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4825487692627607933.post-78816605385188955392018-04-11T13:21:02.807-07:002018-04-11T13:21:02.807-07:00The point is much of the erroneous teachings from ...The point is much of the erroneous teachings from the ICOC came out a stupid ignorant understanding of the scriptures, and frankly, the NIV didn't help due to its way of wording certain passages. The passages happen to be ones the ICOC used abusively. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4825487692627607933.post-64761670432347406222018-04-11T13:18:18.196-07:002018-04-11T13:18:18.196-07:00Rene I am so sorry for your loss. I hope it is not...Rene I am so sorry for your loss. I hope it is not due to the stupid church of KipAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4825487692627607933.post-29617000450022803962018-04-11T13:07:25.905-07:002018-04-11T13:07:25.905-07:00I finally had a chance to read God's Word for ...I finally had a chance to read God's Word for myself. I believe that is the best replacement to start with for everyone. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4825487692627607933.post-73709497967089611662017-10-10T01:35:47.123-07:002017-10-10T01:35:47.123-07:00Mario, I think I remember you. I'm Rene Cruz f...Mario, I think I remember you. I'm Rene Cruz from Hayward. My husband killed himself years back. Are you back from Central America?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4825487692627607933.post-61799383944952624732017-06-27T05:21:43.245-07:002017-06-27T05:21:43.245-07:00I'AM A MEMBER OF THE PHOENIX ICC AND MY NAME I...I'AM A MEMBER OF THE PHOENIX ICC AND MY NAME IS BILL THOMPSON, EITHER YOU ARE PART OF THE SOLUTION ARE YOU THE PROBLEM. WHERE THERE NO VISION THE PEOPLE WILL PERISH PROV. 29:18, ENTER THROUGH THE NARROW GATE MATTHEW 7:13-14 WE ARE ALL SAVE BY FAITH BUT IN THE END YOU HAVE TO BE FAITHFUL TO GOD IN THE END BUT WHAT THAT LOOK LIKE THAT'S GOD DECISION BUT YOU HAVE TO PUT ON THE ARMOR OF GOD EPHESIANS 6:10-21 AND THE BIBLE SHOULD DEFINE US AND NOT THE WORLD. SO WE NEED TO WATCH OUR LIFE AND OUR DOCTRINE CLOSELY 1 TIMOTHY 4:16 FOR WE CAN SAVE OURSELF AND OUR HEARERS... WHEN BILL GATES WAS RUNNING MICROSOFT, DID THEY ALL HAVE HIS VISION(HIS COMPANY IN DIFFERENT COUNTRIES) OR THEY WAS AUTONOMY FOR EACH OTHER? LOOK I LOVE MY CHURCH IF YOU HAVE SOMETHING BETTER THAN MY CHURCH PLEASE EMAIL ME BRTEXPRESSLLDLS@GMAIL.COM OR CALL ME 602-697-1716 AND I WILL BE THERE BUT PLEASE DON'T WRITE ME OR CALL ME AND BASH MY FAMILY, PLEASE DON'T DO THAT, WRITE ME OR CALL ME TO GIVE ME A BETTER CHURCH WHO ARE EVANGELIZING THE WORLD(GOOD NEWS EMAIL) MY PHONE IS BROKEN I WILL BE FULLY OPERATIONAL IN A COUPLE DAYSAnonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09071921876238559870noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4825487692627607933.post-3851510677754958642016-08-31T04:04:17.869-07:002016-08-31T04:04:17.869-07:00Hi, I know this is an older post so I don´t know w...Hi, I know this is an older post so I don´t know whether this is still relevant, but there are some attitude shifts I have found useful since abandoning Kip´s movement. I can best sum this up by saying that I went through a process of getting Kip out of my head, i.e. I stopped reading the bible with the filter of Kip´s gospel and started to read it in order to understand what it actually teaches. My tack has been to start with a reliable commentary on each book of the bible, and work my way through it, starting with Genesis. This has been incredibly liberating, once you get rid of the approach used in the ICC, namely bending the scriptures to support Kip´s opinions, you are free to begin to understand God through his word. God can then use that process to guide you.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00611778000967231220noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4825487692627607933.post-59887782553888528282016-01-19T10:32:25.440-08:002016-01-19T10:32:25.440-08:00I am currently a member of the ICOC and really con...I am currently a member of the ICOC and really considering finding somewhere else to worship.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4825487692627607933.post-70934549427186016702015-12-17T12:45:09.413-08:002015-12-17T12:45:09.413-08:00I grew up in the mainstream Churches of Christ and...I grew up in the mainstream Churches of Christ and I think it was their legalism that spawned the ICC. There was no way I could be saved believing in that false gospel. I was taught I had to help save myself (not explicitly in those words, but it was certainly taught, nevertheless). In 1 Cor. 15, it says "Christ died for our sins" - that means ALL of our sins - past, present, and future. Future?? Yes! After all, how many of our sins were in the future when he died? All of them! Praise God! :) The mainstream COC has a false gospel, as does the ICC from which it sprang. We are saved by grace alone through faith, completely apart from works. This makes all the difference in every way. The believers with whom I fellowship are SO full of grace toward others because they know God's grace! "'Most assuredly, I say to you, he who hears My word and believes in Him who sent Me has everlasting life, and shall not come into judgment, but has passed from death into life.'" (John 5:24) "And if by grace, then it is no longer of works; otherwise grace is no longer grace. But if it is of works, it is no longer grace; otherwise work is no longer work." (Romans 11:6) "But now the righteousness of God apart from the law is revealed, being witnessed by the Law and the Prophets, even the righteousness of God, through faith in Jesus Christ, to all and on all who believe. For there is no difference; for all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God, being justified freely by His grace through the redemption that is in Christ Jesus..." (Romans 3:21-24) "Now to him who works, the wages are not counted as grace but as debt. But to him who does not work but believes on Him who justifies the ungodly, his faith is accounted for righteousness,just as David also describes the blessedness of the man to whom God imputes righteousness apart from works: 'Blessed are those whose lawless deeds are forgiven, and whose sins are covered; blessed is the man to whom the Lord shall not impute sin.'" (Romans 4:4-8) "For sin shall not have dominion over you, for you are not under law but under grace." (Romans 6:14) I was always taught in the COC that we are under a "new" law. No! We are no longer under ANY law - period. "Is the law then against the promises of God? Certainly not! For if there had been a law given which could have given life, truly righteousness would have been by the law. But the Scripture has confined all under sin, that the promise by faith in Jesus Christ might be given to those who believe." (Galatians 3:21-22) May God bless you and bring you comfort by His unfathomable grace! :)Lori Baldwinhttps://www.facebook.com/Lolligalnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4825487692627607933.post-52826208048057528042014-12-20T09:03:54.537-08:002014-12-20T09:03:54.537-08:00The fact that you log in as "Kip McKean"...The fact that you log in as "Kip McKean" instead of yourself, along with the nature of your comment, should discredit your statement. Seems like you are doing it under Kip's name to misrepresent and discredit him. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4825487692627607933.post-21702425259221056072014-07-07T03:17:08.923-07:002014-07-07T03:17:08.923-07:00Im sure you have a point but it is not clear at al...Im sure you have a point but it is not clear at all what you are trying to show.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09675996185169543694noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4825487692627607933.post-1279899321618626792014-06-18T13:49:02.419-07:002014-06-18T13:49:02.419-07:00Um, okay.Um, okay.ed.https://www.blogger.com/profile/09882785561994571540noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4825487692627607933.post-6692084049563531632014-06-12T11:56:23.922-07:002014-06-12T11:56:23.922-07:00The earliest Manuscript on Baptism(as early as 60 ...The earliest Manuscript on Baptism(as early as 60 A.D.) AND QUOTED AS SCRIPTURE BY Some in EARLY CHURCH: The Didache<br />VII. But concerning baptism, thus baptize ye: having first recited all these precepts, baptize in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Spirit, in running water; but if thou hast not running water, baptize in some other water, and if thou canst not baptize in cold, in warm water; but if thou hast neither, pour water three times on the head, in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Spirit. Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08691913149635438908noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4825487692627607933.post-24825874281468176802014-06-12T11:49:51.567-07:002014-06-12T11:49:51.567-07:00The ICC is ignorant on church History:
1)Eusebius...The ICC is ignorant on church History: <br />1)Eusebius: (200 A.D. 1 of Origen students is martyred because of persecution): Among the women, Herais, still under instruction for baptism(water), received instead "the baptism of fire(burned alive)" as Origen himself puts it, and so ended her life. <br /><br />2)Acts 12:1-2.<br />1 It was about this time that King Herod arrested some who belonged to the church, intending to persecute them. 2 He had James, the brother of John, put to death with the sword.<br /><br />History teaches James was beheaded at Jerusalem. The Roman officer who guarded James watch in amazement as James defended his faith at his trial. Overcome by conviction, he declared his new faith to the Judge. <br />As one historian puts it "So they were both taken away together, and on the way he asked James to forgive him. James looked at him for a moment and replied "peace be with you" and kissed him. So both were beheaded at the same time.<br /><br />This was considered a Baptism of Blood as you can see the Roman guard was not water baptized and considered save by the Apostles and the 1st century Church.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08691913149635438908noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4825487692627607933.post-25112010971109846882014-06-12T11:42:18.940-07:002014-06-12T11:42:18.940-07:00Hosea 11:12
New King James Version (NKJV)
God’s Ch...Hosea 11:12<br />New King James Version (NKJV)<br />God’s Charge Against Ephraim<br /><br />12 “Ephraim has encircled Me with lies,<br />And the house of Israel with deceit;<br />""But Judah still walks with God,<br />Even with the Holy One who is faithful.""<br /><br />vs <br /><br />Hosea 11:12<br />New International Version (NIV)<br />Israel’s Sin<br /><br />12 Ephraim has surrounded me with lies,<br />Israel with deceit.<br />""And Judah is unruly against God,<br />even against the faithful Holy One."" /// Like I said I checked the Hebrew, Hosea 11:12<br />King James Version (KJV)... but Judah yet ruleth(in Hebrew is 'rud) with(in Hebrew is 'im') God, and is faithful(in Hebrew is 'aman') with the saints(in Hebrew is 'kaw-dosh'). ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------And Jesus said: Matthew 5:18<br />New King James Version (NKJV)<br />18 For assuredly, I say to you, till heaven and earth pass away, one jot or one tittle will by no means pass from the law till all is fulfilled. /////// But the fact that the ICC leaders are blind to this fact, it's just as Jesus said: Matthew 15:14<br />New King James Version (NKJV)<br />14 Let them alone. They are blind leaders of the blind. And if the blind leads the blind, both will fall into a ditch.”Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08691913149635438908noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4825487692627607933.post-91117942352761457872014-06-12T07:02:01.904-07:002014-06-12T07:02:01.904-07:00"How the New Testament Cannon was formed"..."How the New Testament Cannon was formed"<br />The official New Testament with the 27 books we have was formed in 367 A.D. and not 150 A.D.(As we were told in the ICC/ICOC/BACC, plus others. <br /><br />In the Year 150 A.D. Marcion of Sinope put together the 1st version of the New Testament and it only included the Gospel of Luke and the Epistles of Paul and he rejected the Old Testament all together. <br /><br />Marcion also shared some Gnostic views and so he was rejected by the early church. <br /><br />But the Church picked up on this idea of a New Testament so what they had was a thing called Apostles and the Gospels and they accepted the Old Testament. <br /><br />But each Church had a different set of Books when it came to the New testament, some had the: 'The Shepherd of Hermas', others had 'The Epistle of Barnabas' some did not feel good to have 'Hebrews', etc, etc. <br />(In 185 A.D. Saint Irenaeus put together a cannon for the New Testament but it only contained 22 books).<br /><br />This went on until 290 A.D. when the bishops started having conferences to fix this matter, and it was a long process until 367 A.D.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08691913149635438908noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4825487692627607933.post-58000217001037808272014-06-12T06:35:20.084-07:002014-06-12T06:35:20.084-07:00The Word "against" that appears in Hosea...The Word "against" that appears in Hosea 11:12<br />New International Version (NIV)<br />Israel’s Sin<br /><br />12 Ephraim has surrounded me with lies,<br />Israel with deceit.<br />""And Judah is unruly ''against'' God,<br />even against the faithful Holy One."" ///That also appears in Genesis 16:12(NIV)<br />He will be a wild donkey of a man; his hand will be "against" everyone and everyone’s hand against him, and he will live in hostility toward all his brothers.” -and in the (KJB) Genesis 16:12<br />And he will be a wild man; his hand will be "against" every man, and every man's hand against him; and he shall dwell in the presence of all his brethren. /Genesis 16:12<br />New King James Version (NKJV)<br />12 He shall be a wild man;<br />His hand shall be "against" every man,<br />And every man’s hand against him.<br />And he shall dwell in the presence of all his brethren.” /// In the Hebrew against is 'ale,el' and it does not appear in the Hebrew text in Hosea 11:12.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08691913149635438908noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4825487692627607933.post-25127706522616959652014-06-09T05:57:05.050-07:002014-06-09T05:57:05.050-07:00Mario! Thanks for posting. Sounds like you have al...Mario! Thanks for posting. Sounds like you have also escaped the influence of Kip and the ICCed.https://www.blogger.com/profile/09882785561994571540noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4825487692627607933.post-90233745729523837762014-06-08T23:39:14.400-07:002014-06-08T23:39:14.400-07:00http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-iOxcIkOPH0
You m...http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-iOxcIkOPH0 <br /><br />You might wanna watch this. Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08691913149635438908noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4825487692627607933.post-10691955126867572312014-06-08T22:00:24.948-07:002014-06-08T22:00:24.948-07:00Isaiah 2:4 He will judge between the nations
and w...Isaiah 2:4 He will judge between the nations<br />and will settle disputes for many peoples.<br />They will beat their swords into plowshares<br />and their spears into pruning hooks.<br />Nation will not take up sword against nation,<br />nor will they train for war anymore.<br /><br />If this was fulfilled when the Church was started, then why so many wars for the last 2000 years? <br />Jesus said the opposite would happen before his 2nd coming: <br />Matthew 24<br />New King James Version (NKJV)<br />4 And Jesus answered and said to them: “Take heed that no one deceives you. 5 For many will come in My name, saying, ‘I am the Christ,’ and will deceive many. 6 And you will hear of wars and rumors of wars. See that you are not troubled; for all these things must come to pass, but the end is not yet. 7 For nation will rise against nation, and kingdom against kingdom. And there will be famines, pestilences, and earthquakes in various places. 8 All these are the beginning of sorrows.<br /><br />The Coming of the Son of Man<br /><br />29 “Immediately after the tribulation of those days the sun will be darkened, and the moon will not give its light; the stars will fall from heaven, and the powers of the heavens will be shaken. 30 Then the sign of the Son of Man will appear in heaven, and then all the tribes of the earth will mourn, and they will see the Son of Man coming on the clouds of heaven with power and great glory. 31 And He will send His angels with a great sound of a trumpet, and they will gather together His elect from the four winds, from one end of heaven to the other.<br /><br />Jesus also said: <br />Matthew 24:22<br />And unless those days were shortened, no flesh would be saved; but for the elect’s sake those days will be shortened.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08691913149635438908noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4825487692627607933.post-1704145872905380162014-06-08T21:59:06.159-07:002014-06-08T21:59:06.159-07:00This comment has been removed by the author.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08691913149635438908noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4825487692627607933.post-7494877379131528892014-06-08T21:58:01.886-07:002014-06-08T21:58:01.886-07:00This comment has been removed by the author.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08691913149635438908noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4825487692627607933.post-89761073252617048922014-06-08T21:45:27.859-07:002014-06-08T21:45:27.859-07:00The Word Nation in the Hebrew is (go'ee) meani...The Word Nation in the Hebrew is (go'ee) meaning a foreign nation/gentile. <br />Countries(currently training for war) without mandatory military service<br />1 Albania<br />2 Argentina<br />3 Australia<br />4 Barbados<br />5 Belgium<br />6 Belize<br />7 Bosnia and Herzegovina<br />8 Bulgaria<br />9 Canada<br />10 China (PRC)<br />11 Costa Rica<br />12 Croatia<br />13 Czech Republic<br />14 France<br />15 Germany<br />16 Hungary<br />17 India<br />18 Iraq<br />19 Ireland<br />20 Italy<br />21 Jamaica<br />22 Japan<br />23 Latvia<br />24 Lebanon<br />25 Luxembourg<br />26 Republic of Macedonia<br />27 Mauritius<br />28 Montenegro<br />29 Morocco<br />30 Netherlands<br />31 New Zealand<br />32 Pakistan<br />33 Panama<br />34 Peru<br />35 Poland<br />36 Portugal<br />37 Romania<br />38 Serbia<br />39 Slovakia<br />40 Slovenia<br />41 South Africa<br />42 Spain<br />43 Sri Lanka<br />44 Sweden<br />45 Tanzania<br />46 United Kingdom<br />47 United States<br />Countries with mandatory military service<br />1 Armenia<br />2 Austria<br />3 Belarus<br />4 Bermuda<br />5 Brazil<br />6 Myanmar(Burma)<br />7 Cyprus<br />8 Denmark<br />9 Egypt<br />10 Finland<br />11 Greece<br />11.1 Conscientious objection to military service (Greece)<br />12 Iran<br />13 Israel<br />14 North Korea<br />15 South Korea<br />15.1 Compensation<br />16 Mexico<br />17 Norway<br />18 Russia<br />19 Singapore<br />20 Switzerland<br />21 Taiwan (ROC)<br />22 Thailand<br />23 Turkey<br />24 Ukraine<br /><br />This prophecy of Isaiah will be fulfilled in Christ 2nd coming to establish his millennium kingdom on earth: Revelation 20<br />New International Version (NIV)<br />The Thousand Years<br /><br />20 And I saw an angel coming down out of heaven, having the key to the Abyss and holding in his hand a great chain. 2 He seized the dragon, that ancient serpent, who is the devil, or Satan, and bound him for a thousand years. 3 He threw him into the Abyss, and locked and sealed it over him, to keep him from deceiving the nations anymore until the thousand years were ended. After that, he must be set free for a short time.<br /><br />4 I saw thrones on which were seated those who had been given authority to judge. And I saw the souls of those who had been beheaded because of their testimony about Jesus and because of the word of God. They[a] had not worshiped the beast or its image and had not received its mark on their foreheads or their hands. They came to life and reigned with Christ a thousand years. 5 (The rest of the dead did not come to life until the thousand years were ended.) This is the first resurrection. 6 Blessed and holy are those who share in the first resurrection. The second death has no power over them, but they will be priests of God and of Christ and will reign with him for a thousand years.<br /><br />This is confirmed by ancient Rabbi's like Rabbi Elijah(not the prophet) 200 B.C. And Barnabas in his Epistle says that Christ will return to earth to rein for a 1000 years.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08691913149635438908noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4825487692627607933.post-38889459423130038422014-06-08T21:44:46.143-07:002014-06-08T21:44:46.143-07:00An observation of Isaiah 2:1-4
New International V...An observation of Isaiah 2:1-4<br />New International Version (NIV)<br />The Mountain of the Lord<br /><br />2 This is what Isaiah son of Amoz saw concerning Judah and Jerusalem:<br /><br />2 In the last days<br /><br />the mountain of the Lord’s temple will be established<br />as the highest of the mountains;<br />it will be exalted above the hills,<br />and all nations will stream to it.<br />3 Many peoples will come and say,<br /><br />“Come, let us go up to the mountain of the Lord,<br />to the temple of the God of Jacob.<br />He will teach us his ways,<br />so that we may walk in his paths.”<br />The law will go out from Zion,<br />the word of the Lord from Jerusalem.<br />4 He will judge between the nations<br />and will settle disputes for many peoples.<br />They will beat their swords into plowshares<br />and their spears into pruning hooks.<br />Nation will not take up sword against nation,<br />nor will they train for war anymore.<br /><br />According to the ICOC and others this was fulfilled in Acts 2. But that can't be and I'll explain: Isaiah was contemporary of Micah and most scholars believe that Micah version was 1st because it is longer and Isaiah copied from his: Micah 4<br />New International Version (NIV)<br />The Mountain of the Lord<br /><br />4 In the last days<br /><br />the mountain of the Lord’s temple will be established<br />as the highest of the mountains;<br />it will be exalted above the hills,<br />and peoples will stream to it.<br />2 Many nations will come and say,<br /><br />“Come, let us go up to the mountain of the Lord,<br />to the temple of the God of Jacob.<br />He will teach us his ways,<br />so that we may walk in his paths.”<br />The law will go out from Zion,<br />the word of the Lord from Jerusalem.<br />3 He will judge between many peoples<br />and will settle disputes for strong nations far and wide.<br />They will beat their swords into plowshares<br />and their spears into pruning hooks.<br />Nation will not take up sword against nation,<br />nor will they train for war anymore.<br />4 Everyone will sit under their own vine<br />and under their own fig tree,<br />and no one will make them afraid,<br />for the Lord Almighty has spoken.<br />5 All the nations may walk<br />in the name of their gods,<br />but we will walk in the name of the Lord<br />our God for ever and ever.<br /><br />Micah and Isaiah are referring to the 2nd coming of Christ and not the Church in Acts 2, because it says: He will judge between many peoples<br />and will settle disputes for strong nations far and wide.<br />They will beat their swords into plowshares<br />and their spears into pruning hooks.<br />Nation will not take up sword against nation,<br />nor will they train for war anymore.<br /><br />This has not happened yet, Iran is going Nuclear, the U.S. is still in a war against Terror, not to mention WW1, WW2, The Crusades, the Islamic Wars, the Napoleonic Wars, etc, etc, etc.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08691913149635438908noreply@blogger.com